tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post9148294431219863805..comments2023-10-31T06:26:04.345-07:00Comments on Excelling at Mediocrity: Sometimes theTruth Hurtsmfrantihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08335465736030278659noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-87106796296801483852008-11-14T15:38:00.000-08:002008-11-14T15:38:00.000-08:00Let's make that 46...On facebook, I wrote "LJK, to...Let's make that 46...<BR/><BR/>On facebook, I wrote "LJK, too, is a feminist, "whatever that means."'<BR/><BR/>And nobody got it. <BR/><BR/>I had to clarify that it was Sarah's latest quotable. She might as well have said, "I, too, would still like to try my hand at national politics, whatever that means."<BR/><BR/>It's appalling (A-palin, hehe) how localized her knowledge of the world is. Take for example her inability to come up with just one more Supreme Court ruling other than Roe v. Wade. Her next stint should really be host for local Alaskan morning show.jenntoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08866338367068359897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-74859735228186911182008-11-09T08:19:00.000-08:002008-11-09T08:19:00.000-08:00Whoa, M! 45 comments? Who is the rock star now!!...Whoa, M! 45 comments? Who is the rock star now!! :)C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06278966723822635150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-83271694554981514042008-11-05T19:00:00.000-08:002008-11-05T19:00:00.000-08:00Late to the party, but I'd like to comment on the ...Late to the party, but I'd like to comment on the original post. I find the excerpt to be right on, and here's why. We have become a country that scowls at the word "academic." Sarah Palin's bragging about being Joe Six Pack and constantly belittling President-elect Obama's community organizing was sad and the first of many reasons why I disliked her as a candidate. <BR/><BR/>When did we decide we wanted our leaders to be just regular folk and not the best we could find? When did drive to learn and succeed become bad words? <BR/><BR/>And I love the fact that Obama's community organizing background just kicked their trash all over the electoral map. Grass roots, baby.Erishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05620319836117010212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-112108909144372142008-11-05T11:27:00.000-08:002008-11-05T11:27:00.000-08:00Highest incarceration rates? It's crazzeee. 3% of...Highest incarceration rates? It's crazzeee. 3% of the population and 25% of the prisoners. Huh? <BR/><BR/>Plus, don't forget that we spend twice as much AS THE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED on our Armed Forces. <BR/><BR/>But yet, no money for universal health insurance.djinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06112894520660114580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-44845904250677661602008-11-05T08:32:00.000-08:002008-11-05T08:32:00.000-08:00happily, as we now know, the commentary is a hopef...happily, as we now know, the commentary is a hopeful one, because the U.S. did not embrace that which Palin, or even McCain embodied! Sarah Palin is not our future for now. Our future is a more moderate path.<BR/><BR/>Interesting altercation which has erupted here. I'm curious to what Sunshine attributes the facts that the U.S. has among the highest rates of poverty, the highest incarceration rates, and the highest murder rates in the developed world if that does not reflect a lack of compassion. Given that the U.S. is also about the most conservative nation, and that conservatism is an ideology which so highly values a very restrictive set of social norms, individualism and self-interest--crucial elements of egoism, can Sunshine see see no reason for such a conclusion?<BR/><BR/>Sunshine, you noted that "this nation isn't just built on conservatives we have democrats that live here too,"<BR/><BR/>Yes, and as conservatives never seem to understand, <EM>Democrat does not mean liberal</EM>. There are very few true liberals in the Democratic party. In the U.S, we have a conservative party (mostly neocon, but still con) and a less conservative party. The fact that Democrats are frequently part of the problem says <EM>nothing</EM> about liberalism.derekstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06834500613514245522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-79610375120630693942008-11-05T07:42:00.000-08:002008-11-05T07:42:00.000-08:00It seems as though you are belittling me quimby, w...It seems as though you are belittling me quimby, which is frustrating because I just want to know more about where you stand. But because I get 'emotional' I am not fit to have a conversation with you? I admit it. I try not, but it is who I am. <BR/><BR/>You have a different view than me. I want to know why. I want to be challenged so that if there is an error in my ways I can correct it. <BR/><BR/>Emotions are my strength (and my weakness) I know emotions. I don't know what you have, the ability to retain facts, to be a political as you are. I hear facts, I read things, I am educated, I just don't retain them like you do. <BR/><BR/>I don't think it is right that you lay the blame of lack of compassion solely on conservatives, although, I would agree that they could use some work too, if not mighty work, but its not all conservatives fault. <BR/><BR/>I am going to have to ponder more about why Jesus didn't talk about homosexuality, and the fact that he did talk about compassion. <BR/><BR/>I don't agree with socialism. Do I think something needs to be done about the insurance problem? Yes. I can't afford insurance right now. I don't have it. Its a tight spot, but I don't think that the government should be involved. I don't have a solution yet.<BR/><BR/>I do what I can with what I have. I apologize about the personal attacks, and the last one was meant more as a compliment than an attack.Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16608249416231922732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-83215702411412280992008-11-05T07:35:00.000-08:002008-11-05T07:35:00.000-08:00In half of all conceptions involving abortions, th...In half of all conceptions involving abortions, the couple were using contraceptives. Just throwing that out there.djinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06112894520660114580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-1674150303228450962008-11-05T07:32:00.000-08:002008-11-05T07:32:00.000-08:00Sunshine, I also suggest you read up on the law of...Sunshine, I also suggest you read up on the law of consecration. Very interesting. I have read diary entries from people living the law of consecration; I don't the phrase means what you think it means.djinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06112894520660114580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-11214967705865500882008-11-04T23:25:00.000-08:002008-11-04T23:25:00.000-08:00You know, for the sake of your blood pressure, I t...You know, for the sake of your blood pressure, I think I'll stop this "discussion." I still don't get the vitriol, anger, and personal attacks; but then with your obvious misunderstanding of the issues at play it makes sense you'd go on pure emotion. And you know, it's just not worth it for me to discuss anything with you when you can't even get basic definitions correct, and when your first reaction, upon feeling threatened, is to attack. <BR/><BR/>Maybe when you learn to play nice . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-55285165373751110542008-11-04T23:04:00.000-08:002008-11-04T23:04:00.000-08:00Sunshine, if that is your definition of socialism,...Sunshine, if that is your definition of socialism, then I suggest you check a dictionary.<BR/><BR/>And again, thanks for the personal attack. Very helpful. Very much appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-44173849530001175762008-11-04T22:31:00.000-08:002008-11-04T22:31:00.000-08:00djjn, unless of course you are talking about their...djjn, unless of course you are talking about their natural tendency to flip flop, then I guess I would agree with you....Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16608249416231922732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-44942082348887849752008-11-04T22:29:00.000-08:002008-11-04T22:29:00.000-08:00I still don't see how that proves that conservativ...I still don't see how that proves that conservatives aren't compassionate. <BR/><BR/>Plus, this nation isn't just built on conservatives we have democrats that live here too, so what are the stats on them being compassionate. Just because someone 'says' lets help the poor, doesn't mean they are going to.<BR/><BR/>Plus, the law of consecration (giving what you have to the building of the kingdom, or in other words give to the poor) is different than socialism (you give everything you have so someone doesn't have to work and benefits from your labors. They are much different. <BR/><BR/>And djjn BS I don't see Quimby backing down anytime soon.Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16608249416231922732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-8206920059226864602008-11-04T22:03:00.000-08:002008-11-04T22:03:00.000-08:00Here's a scientific study showing that Conservativ...Here's a scientific study showing that Conservatives, when presented with information that contradicts their predefined beliefs, react by beliving more strongly. Liberals, the opposite.<BR/><BR/>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375_pf.htmldjinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06112894520660114580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-70869180076661034722008-11-04T20:28:00.000-08:002008-11-04T20:28:00.000-08:00Sunshine, any answer I give you will only upset yo...Sunshine, any answer I give you will only upset you more. But briefly: The US is the most conservative country in the OECD. It's also - by any measurement - the least compassionate. Although it is the wealthiest country in the world, it has a staggeringly high rate of poverty, and has done shockingly little to alleviate that poverty. Left and centre-left countries measure up much better on any scale of equality and social welfare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-27492721951234257812008-11-04T20:12:00.000-08:002008-11-04T20:12:00.000-08:00told you he would win...thanks mfrantiand your abs...told you he would win...<BR/><BR/>thanks mfranti<BR/><BR/>and your absolutely right... don't you just love the freaking 'buzz' words. <BR/><BR/>Sorry..Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16608249416231922732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-58598112899475615942008-11-04T20:09:00.000-08:002008-11-04T20:09:00.000-08:00I know quimby, that is why I can't have a conversa...I know quimby, that is why I can't have a conversation with you. I take it personal. Call it one of my better faults. <BR/><BR/>I get emotional. I get emotional when it sounds like you are telling me, because I am a conservative, that I have no compassion and that conservatives don't have compassion. It bugs me. I get emotional. I am trying really hard not to because I agree it doesn't do anything for my point. I just don't agree with you. Maybe the difference is you're looking at statistics where it is the conservative leaders that have no compassion as opposed to the conservative people.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I should ask you for statistics that show that the conservatives (the people not the leaders) are actually the way you describe.. in fact I ask you to show me statistics that show, that actually show me that conservatives lack compassion.Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16608249416231922732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-51829435291566989772008-11-04T20:06:00.000-08:002008-11-04T20:06:00.000-08:00and another thing,sunshine, you have a tremendous ...and another thing,<BR/><BR/>sunshine, you have a tremendous amount of compassion. i know, i've read your words. there's a lot of beauty within<BR/><BR/>but as with many on both sides, once certain buzz words are said, all rationality and common sense goes out the window and people start arguring based on emotions.<BR/><BR/>let take a common sense approach to abortion.<BR/>[in a minute-obama just unofficially won the election]mfrantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335465736030278659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-40274186876553278332008-11-04T19:57:00.000-08:002008-11-04T19:57:00.000-08:00sunshine, don't go away. i never suggested you sho...sunshine, don't go away. i never suggested you should go away.mfrantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335465736030278659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-26348153280945070602008-11-04T19:56:00.001-08:002008-11-04T19:56:00.001-08:00Sunshine, there's really no need to make it so per...Sunshine, there's really no need to make it so personal. I haven't attacked you; I've said things about conservatives but not about you, in particular. You don't need to attack me. Nor do you need to call into question my personal worthiness. It's not necessary, it's over the top, and it does nothing to back up your position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-44189563937522181792008-11-04T19:56:00.000-08:002008-11-04T19:56:00.000-08:00sunshine, take a deep breath.i'm not taking sides....sunshine, take a deep breath.<BR/><BR/>i'm not taking sides. if anything, i taking the church's stance on abortion. i'm not ganging up on you and i'm not defending quibmy.<BR/><BR/>i agree with you guns should be your right, choice in abortion should be your right and i will defend both of those.<BR/><BR/>as for compassion on quimby's part, well...i'll let you two work it out.<BR/><BR/>again, i aint taking sides-i just happen to remember something about there not being a specific time the soul enters the body and that the church is pro-choice in certain circumstances. <BR/><BR/>AND...i'm listening to you. ;)mfrantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335465736030278659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-23806687446355578392008-11-04T19:53:00.000-08:002008-11-04T19:53:00.000-08:00"tortured" that's not what I said... unless you ca..."tortured" that's not what I said... unless you can't read, I said traumatized, and really your soul...ah even if I had the proof, (which I have) staring you in the face you wouldn't believe it... so it's not worth it. I would recommend you read the scriptures again.<BR/><BR/>Dangit!! I need to stop!!<BR/><BR/>Sorry mfranti I m whoring your website... <BR/><BR/>Done...Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16608249416231922732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-3158697849727180602008-11-04T19:47:00.000-08:002008-11-04T19:47:00.000-08:00really... snarfblat...I get to dang emotional and ...really... snarfblat...<BR/><BR/>I get to dang emotional and then I am told not to. <BR/><BR/>Crud..<BR/><BR/>Sorry mfranti. It just seems that the only opinions that matter are the ones that agree with quimby and that irritates the hell out of me. Nothing she has said to me has had compassion in it, or has led me to believe she is a compassionate person. THat bugs me because she is claiming we should all be more compassionate. What is it that Jesus says... ah yes, lead by example... where is the example?<BR/><BR/>ugg... emotional again...<BR/><BR/>Shes not right... all of the time, (but don't tell her that.. :)Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16608249416231922732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-71695332263471816632008-11-04T18:21:00.000-08:002008-11-04T18:21:00.000-08:00sunshine, according to my memory, even the church ...sunshine, according to my memory, even the church hasn't determined whent he soul enters the body.<BR/><BR/>how about we all agree (or mostly) that the church's stance on abortion is a sound one and that's should be our guide.<BR/><BR/>let's not debate all of the other stuff, lets just stick with the church teaches and go forward. <BR/><BR/>abortion is an ugly thing. for some, without a religion such as our to guide their decisions, it's less complicated.mfrantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335465736030278659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-10078568181088275132008-11-04T18:08:00.000-08:002008-11-04T18:08:00.000-08:00sunshine, according to my memory, even the church ...sunshine, according to my memory, even the church hasn't determined whent he soul enters the body.<BR/><BR/>how about we all agree (or mostly) that the church's stance on abortion is a sound one and that's should be our guide.<BR/><BR/>let's not debate all of the other stuff, lets just stick with the church teaches and go forward. <BR/><BR/>abortion is an ugly thing. for some, without a religion such as our to guide their decisions, it's less complicated.mfrantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335465736030278659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1458583721644967759.post-42723272238891177622008-11-04T18:03:00.000-08:002008-11-04T18:03:00.000-08:00My statements referred to "conservatives." If you...My statements referred to "conservatives." If you choose to put yourself in that group . . . I have seen nothing in conservative behavior or attitudes to dissuade me from this notion that conservatives really don't give a flying leap about alleviating poverty.<BR/><BR/>Statistic after statistic show that abortion rates remain fairly steady whether or not abortion is legal - and that adoption rates don't increase because abortion is illegal. Adoption is largely a straw man argument: Fewer abortions do not mean more adoptions.<BR/><BR/>You really have no proof that souls are "tortured" by abortion. (Where in the Bible does it say that?) <BR/><BR/>The wider quote was about morality. It mentioned guns once; you jumped on that. I countered with compassion because, again, the larger argument was about morality - and what is more moral than compassion? <BR/><BR/>Again you have failed to address my central argument - that Christ cares more about poverty than He does about the "hot-button" issues of the right-wing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com